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人はみな 心の岸辺に 手放したくない花がある 精華區： 京都櫻花 2008，北海道 2007, 北海道 2004，北海道 2005，北海道冬夏對照 Contax N1 精華一，Contax N1 精華二，Contax N1 精華三 |
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From: maka (Jul 29, 2008 09:29 HKT) hi, i love your Hokkaido Japan 2007 very much~!~!! Tks for share~! www.fotop.net/maka |
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From: Good Job (Jul 24, 2008 23:05 HKT) Good Job!!!代償 |
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From: Lo Fan (Jul 21, 2008 21:39 HKT) Hoho, 好多謝你鍾意隻背景音樂，lee 隻係日本組合 コブクロ 其中一隻名作 ここにしか咲かない花 （只在這裏綻放的花朶），係早幾年一套叫做瑠璃之島的日劇的主題曲。 個故事係真人真事改編，關於一個來自東京的問題少女俾沖繩一個離島的老人家們半呃半氹帶左去個島上面讀書，避免小島上的學校被殺校，故事講個女仔在島上面由同島民互不接納，到漸漸的成長同面對自己。故事拍得淡淡泊泊，卻又可以叫人感動。 主唱主題曲的組合仲要係特登坐船去個島上面生活左一段時間，然後創作出 lee 隻歌的。 可以參看以下的 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPmzwFF7TZ8 （有該島風景）及 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYOQt9Tk728 （原裝 MTV） |
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From: joan (Jul 20, 2008 17:41 HKT) 請問首背景音樂係叫咩事架...?? P.S. D 相影得好好TIM AR~ |
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From: Michaelsix (Jun 27, 2008 01:37 HKT) 風景相好正，有時間來指教下！ http://www.fotop.net/Michaelsix |
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From: Lo Fan (Jun 13, 2008 22:33 HKT) Thank you very much for the comment! ^_^ |
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From: bestwin (Jun 13, 2008 16:12 HKT) Good photos and can feel the colourful tone effects. quite inspirated and excited to see all of these photos. thanks for sharing. |
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From: maseedis (Jun 02, 2008 21:41 HKT) I'm back from Shangri-la trip in China. Very tired. If you have time, pls take a look. Guanbatte! http://www.fotop.net/Cotton/Shangrila |
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From: eting34 (May 06, 2008 17:33 HKT) 你d相好令 |
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From: Lo Fan (Apr 15, 2008 00:57 HKT) 兩個月前去北海道的相就真係休提矣，我自己就真係幾唔鍾意啦。 不過櫻花 lee 批自己就真係好鍾意，當堂開心返哂！ |
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From: WINNIE TSUI (Apr 15, 2008 00:23 HKT) LO SIR, 點解你次次去親日本影GE相都係咁靚架呢??你今次呢個旅程GE相真係超靚呀!!!! 今年去北海道果D都係呀~~~ 攪到我又好想去日本呀 =] WINNIE |
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From: lofan (Jan 18, 2008 00:50 HKT) Spoken. |
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From: Esther (Jan 17, 2008 14:01 HKT) I found this hotel from JTB, it seems quite near to Sapporo JR and the price is really cheap. Please have a look!! |
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From: eva (Jan 02, 2008 00:07 HKT) Thank you so much for your advice! |
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From: Lo Fan (Dec 31, 2007 22:34 HKT) 就算唔影相，我估兩三個鐘唔得的機會大，我去陣時有微雪，積雪唔深但係係新雪，所以雖然會阻慢行路，但唔會令人滑倒。 |
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From: eva (Dec 31, 2007 14:45 HKT) Hello lofan, thank you so much for your information! So, it would take 5-6 hours? I have expected to spend 2-3 hours only, would that be possible...if I am not aimming at taking prof pics Btw, I am planning to go there on 11 or 12 Feb... |
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From: lofan (Dec 30, 2007 22:07 HKT) Hello Eva, I will be in Hokkaido with 3 other photographers in Feb too. When will you go for your snow-walking in Biei? I'll walk again on my own, then a few days later my friends will drive in Biei for faster photo taking. Actually back in 2005 I started my walking from around 9:30 then I reached the Bibaushi eki at about 3:xx, the distance wasn't too horrible, but taking pictures takes a lot of time, so you may need to pay more attention to the clock after 1:00pm You don't need much water actually, I brought a litre but turned out that I just used a mouthful of it. You may need to bring some energy gel for "charging" up yourself. I would also like to know more about the clothings and gears you have if you need comments in it. Lastly, Let me know if you want to join us for walking or driving, if schedule allows! |
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From: eva (Dec 29, 2007 02:05 HKT) hello lofan! I am going to hokkaido in Feb. I really want to go to Biei after seeing the pics you took there in 戀影北海道 . Is it easy to walk between the 2 stations at that time? |
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From: maseedis (Dec 16, 2007 22:27 HKT) I want "one more time" ah. wow you are going to get D3!! cool ah cool ah. |
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From: lofan (Dec 16, 2007 11:23 HKT) Long time no see, 我搵唔到 erica 個 album o既？不過我都去左你 album 度留左言喎。 昨晚幫人用 D80 影結婚相，果然都係果句：垃圾數碼 =.= |
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From: Maseedis (Dec 15, 2007 10:24 HKT) Erica is getting married la. I've taken some photos for her. Pls go and take a look. By the way, I love this song. the Sakura song, can you send it to me? Thanks ah. :> |
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From: Bithia (Oct 23, 2007 14:38 HKT) 你有關旅行既相都好靚^__^ http://www.fotop.net/bithia |
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From: Caxabi (Oct 19, 2007 22:08 HKT) very nice photo especially those in Japan!  http://www.fotop.net/caxabi |
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From: OsBi (Sep 25, 2007 00:18 HKT)
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From: sai yik (Sep 24, 2007 20:01 HKT) 祝你中 秋 節 快 樂  http://www.pbasehk.com/auooo8 |
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From: HIKOxD (Sep 21, 2007 21:51 HKT) nice ;p http://www.fotop.net/HIKOxD |
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From: Philip (Sep 21, 2007 01:07 HKT) Good Sense, Nice angle, http://www.fotop.net/rxvii |
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From: Lo Fan (Jul 15, 2007 01:00 HKT) 真係有興趣睇我的北海道遊記的話，要帶得去旅行o既你可以買我本戀影北海道 < http://photo.lofan.net/ph >，要免費的話你可以去 Contax Club 討論區 < http://hkcx.lofan.net >，何解要去香港旅＿討_區呢？（飛走兩隻字，廢事 search engine count 多個 match 啦） |
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From: Philip (Jul 14, 2007 12:57 HKT) 你有無興趣到「香港旅遊討論區」分享你的北海道遊記呢 |
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From: LoFan (Jun 25, 2007 15:48 HKT) Ha, thanks for visiting la 大口。 So how is life as a husband? |
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From: 大口 (Jun 25, 2007 12:53 HKT) Long time no see la... |
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From: LoFan (Jun 22, 2007 13:04 HKT) Thank you Boti
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From: boti (Jun 14, 2007 14:46 HKT) Fantastic photos there! I really enjoyed viewing it. Thanks! -� -� -� -� -� -� - |
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From: Lo Fan (Jun 10, 2007 00:26 HKT) The lens of GRD is better |
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From: Yuki (Jun 10, 2007 00:00 HKT) Thx! do you mean the quality of GX100 and GRD is same? |
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From: lofan (Jun 08, 2007 08:52 HKT) 如果你 prefer 比較 versatile 的話，GX100會比較o岩，但如果你想 slim d ，pro 佬覺得你 pro d （按：只限pro佬），GRD就會比較好啦 |
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From: Yuki (Jun 05, 2007 23:27 HKT) which one is better? GRD or GX100? |
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From: Lo Fan (Feb 18, 2007 18:33 HKT) Thank you for visiting Sansu! 快高長大 to you too!
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From: sansu (Feb 18, 2007 04:36 HKT) 新年快樂!!!! 祝你新年心想事成~!!!! www.fotop.net/sansu |
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From: 三寶殿有限公司客戶服務部 (Feb 08, 2007 08:27 HKT) 無事不登三寶殿的閒人，想搵人幫手／做野／過橋時，也請不要登三寶殿，多謝合作 三寶殿有限公司客戶服務主任 鍾無艷字（Lofan代行） |
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From: Oscar Cheung (Feb 02, 2007 09:47 HKT) Lofan....我地想請你過黎做 攝影版版主呀! 你D相實在太靚喇.... www.fotoclub.hk 找我啦! |
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From: Christy (Jan 25, 2007 12:16 HKT) The view is so nice in the pic ar~繼續影多些靚相ar~ http://www.fotop.net/babychristy |
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From: simonwu (Dec 26, 2006 12:07 HKT) 聖誕和新年進步^^ http://www.fotop.net/simonwu |
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From: Also Or (Dec 21, 2006 16:53 HKT) lofan ..又去日本呀...好耐冇見您啦...hihi http://www.fotop.net/pkalso |
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From: Lo Fan (Dec 21, 2006 00:27 HKT) 對唔住各位觀眾新的背景音樂比平常的嘈左一 d ，不過只係十二月尾臨時用住先的，鍾唔鍾意都好，兩三個星期後就會恢復正常。 |
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From: stefan (Nov 14, 2006 01:31 HKT) Good Photo! 有機會交流一下呢∼ http://www.fotop.net/stefan/potrait |
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From: Lo Fan (Nov 01, 2006 09:05 HKT) 禮尚往來，剛剛都在你度留左言 ^_^ huh... 近期都幾多人讚的新相，賣下廣告： http://photo.lofan.net/shanshan05 |
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From: simonwu (Oct 28, 2006 15:57 HKT) 我是今年在北海道一齊搭火車0個位讀者呀! 很久冇上來看你的大作! 人像正!風景美!好得呀! 有時間可以來我的相薄參觀吓!  http://www.fotop.net/simonwu |
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From: lofan (Oct 11, 2006 13:31 HKT) 咁又係呀，都唔見你相簿有乜新相。其實我自己新相都少，尤其都唔係好想影人像。到遲下秋天應該都會影下郊外景咁 lor 轉左份咩工？都算係打曾大老闆的工 lor，見開你話你聽 ^o^ |
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From: lofan (Oct 11, 2006 13:30 HKT) TY ，恭喜你呀∼∼∼ 嘩，今個月實在真係超多人結婚，我簡直去飲多過返屋企食飯 我想問有幾多人係我果社嫁？黎飲本身當然冇所謂啦，不過有幾多人係我果社嫁？（除左你大佬），我 SMS 你啦不如∼ 咦？喂，你嫁左我咪少左個 option lor，唉o也，咁快嫁做乜喎∼∼ 好 down 添∼ |
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From: ty (Oct 02, 2006 15:47 HKT) 嘩, 好耐冇上來, 一來見到你張遍地紅花一棵綠, 好靚呀!! 喂, 我十月廿二結緍, 想請你來飲呀, 你有空來嗎? 請覆我啦! |
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From: Mandy (米米) (Oct 01, 2006 04:52 HKT) 呀Sir真係有心∼成日探我本相簿∼不過我本相簿都就黎發霉嚕∼你都好似好耐冇幫人影人像咁喎∼係呢∼轉左份咩工呀? |
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From: MAY (Sep 30, 2006 16:17 HKT) Hokkaido Japan2006那一輯風景相很美呢.加油.看來你常常去日本呢.真羨慕~ http://www.pixnet.net/minmay |
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From: Michaelsix (Sep 21, 2006 23:45 HKT) 你影的風景相好靚！ http://www.fotop.net/Michaelsix |
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From: Lo Fan (Aug 15, 2006 08:44 HKT) Thanks Tony 今次果 d 因為天氣同花期問題，唔係好得，惟有寄望三幾年後下次再去啦 
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From: TONY (Aug 15, 2006 07:29 HKT) 路過既﹐北海道相好精彩呀。 http://www.fotop.net/myidea |
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From: sakuya (Aug 05, 2006 13:48 HKT) Yeah!你估中了....如果係毫無理據地估中咁你好犀利 |
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From: Lo Fan (Aug 05, 2006 11:23 HKT) 我毫無理據地覺得你係小玲 
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From: sakuya (Aug 03, 2006 18:11 HKT) 你要"奸爸爹"...謎團已漸漸解開，唔好辜負你爺爺金田一耕助之名聲! |
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From: Lo Fan (Aug 02, 2006 12:47 HKT) 哈哈，已經縮到範圍好細，不過單憑 lee 個 "sakuya" 我都仲係未估到。等我問阿 Joe 姐拿張出席飯局名單扮下金田一先 ^_^ |
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From: sakuya (Jul 31, 2006 15:19 HKT) 原本約好30/7號食飯,但最終因人數太少去唔成........攞唔到lofan你o既簽名添......惟有寄望next time la |
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From: Lo Fan (Jul 23, 2006 00:46 HKT) 講真我真係估唔到你係邊個喎，有冇少少貼士呀，我總之估你係舊學生 lor，此外真係冇乜頭緒啦。 不過唔使擔心，你要我幫你本書簽名，始終你都實要蒲頭嫁啦，驚你會唔出聲咩？ ^_^ |
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From: sakuya (Jul 22, 2006 02:51 HKT) 你一定估唔到我係邊個<^0^>.........你去旅行都帶埋本書去果然不忘幫本書做宣傳.......比起過往d相今次d相有好多都有你份，依然都係老樣子。但係我比較固執都係鐘意植物相同食物相多d.......從相片中睇落d海膽、蟹；水果都好似好好食咁，咁o岩全部都係我鐘意食o既點算????唔知係唔係睇完你d食物相之後搞到我有小小餓宜家要去沖杯麵食 |
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From: Lo Fan (Jul 21, 2006 23:31 HKT) 人到中年自然愈來愈肥嫁啦，出乜奇喎，咁我都唔想嫁嘛∼ 今次 d 相呀，有 d 我自己都覺得幾 OK，不過普遍而言我就鍾意兩年前果批多 d 啦，愈影愈退步，唉，冇鬼用... 
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From: Winnje Tsui (Jul 21, 2006 19:38 HKT) Lo Sir: 你又去日本呀??實在令我太羨慕啦~~~ 今次d相好靚，多左好多有你呀~~不過呢......你好似比我上次見你肥左dddd喎!!!!! |
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From: Maseedis (Jun 15, 2006 20:54 HKT) Hey Lo Fan, Sony has launched a DC using Carl Zeise lense ah. Will you consider? |
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From: Ric (May 14, 2006 19:00 HKT) Many 用心nice photos ,welcome you come to share and join activity with us! My album : www.fotop.net/ric333 Our photo club : www.realimagestudio.com |
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From: Lo Fan (Apr 24, 2006 12:19 HKT) 謝謝路人丁賜教 
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From: 路人丁 (Apr 24, 2006 01:39 HKT) 第一次路過此地,見到好多靚相,所以就入去兜左個圈,簡直係花多眼亂.....希望你繼續影多d靚相... |
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From: Lo Fan (Apr 14, 2006 00:41 HKT) 朋友搭路搵返黎的 model 咋，唔識嫁，不過真係幾好影 
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From: 。米米。 (Apr 14, 2006 00:30 HKT) 麻煩Sir~你既新一輯人像<Sansu>好靚呀~Model又靚又索喎~係私影定影會黎架?識架? |
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From: Maseedis (Apr 12, 2006 10:31 HKT) Cool! You have changed your song to Faye Wong's Final Fantasy. I love it. :> I went to Phuket, u can view the pics on my website. I did not edit the pics at all, so that color is grey and pale. :< |
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From: bonny (Mar 30, 2006 21:09 HKT) 你 d 相相影得好靚啊~ |
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From: Lo Fan (Mar 03, 2006 12:28 HKT) 我之前連寫書連搵工都失左七個月啦，唔使返工，洗錢洗得份外爽 |
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From: $ (Mar 03, 2006 12:03 HKT) 係呀, 我呢排雙失丫嘛 .. 
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From: Lo Fan (Mar 03, 2006 11:50 HKT) 可想而知我有幾閒。 之但係... 你都唔弱喎... 
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From: $ (Mar 03, 2006 11:46 HKT) 嘩~~ 乜得你回得咁快~ |
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From: Lo Fan (Mar 03, 2006 11:38 HKT) 德哥果本出得快過我添啦∼ 我個 Personal Homepage? Fanlogy? 荒廢左好耐嫁啦，你唔好搞佢，由得佢安息啦。我連我舊女友個名都未剷呀陰功 |
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From: $ (Mar 03, 2006 11:25 HKT) 喂~~! 凡叔, 你幾時 update 下你個 personal Homepage 呀? 好多條 Link 都去唔到喎.. BTW, 德哥都出左本書喎, 幾時出來一齊搞返個簽名會咁呀? :P |
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From: Lo Fan (Mar 01, 2006 23:43 HKT) 些少啦... 下星期會有花展相嫁啦
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From: Bonnie Chow ~* (Mar 01, 2006 22:49 HKT) 終於有新作品喎~ |
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From: Lo Fan (Jan 25, 2006 21:51 HKT) Thank you Jonas! You are welcome to come back to look for newly uploaded pictures from time to time! |
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From: chshum2002@yahoo.com.hk (Jan 24, 2006 11:59 HKT) 你的網站很多日本靚相，大開眼界。Jonas |
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From: kevin au yeung (Jan 13, 2006 14:24 HKT) hi hi 你d相影得好靚,得閒黎分享喇!! http://www.fotop.net/welovephoto/Au0008 |
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From: bonniechow (Jan 06, 2006 08:40 HKT) 承你貴言  願你新的一年，處處都有新機*
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From: Lo Fan (Jan 03, 2006 23:39 HKT) 辛年快落：辛苦的一年快將落幕！ 
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From: bonniechow (Jan 03, 2006 23:07 HKT) 新年快落? - -" 唔好啩!! Anyway^^ 也祝你新年愉快! 身體健康
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From: Lo Fan (Jan 03, 2006 22:54 HKT) 嘩∼又會咁耐先答o既你？？？丫，點都講聲新年快樂先∼仲有讀者諸君都新年快樂！ 
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From: bonniechow (Jan 03, 2006 22:06 HKT) 係呀~^^我大得起你嫁!!玩個遊戲鴉.........「信不信由你」 |
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From: king (Dec 24, 2005 16:33 HKT) 連小澤瑪利亞都黎埋﹗lofan你係得架啦﹗ |
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From: Lo Fan (Dec 24, 2005 16:25 HKT) うわ！返事してくれてありがとう！光栄です！これからきっと応援を続きます。 |
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From: 小澤マリア (Dec 24, 2005 15:04 HKT) mr. lofan, thankyou for your mail!凄く嬉しかったです☆香港で人気があるなんて思ってもいませんでした。これからも応援宜しくお願いします♪♪ |
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From: lofan (Dec 24, 2005 02:02 HKT) 哈哈，都未生日住，過唔過到生日都未知啦∼所以唔使咁急喎！你大過我？唔好講笑啦，我老人家再過幾年落棺材嫁啦！ 
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From: bonniechow (Dec 24, 2005 01:52 HKT) Sorry,歌詞似乎post多咗少少!!!首先祝你生日快樂，birthday card後E-mail上。蝦!!!!!邊個細路女呀，分分鐘大個你呀~~~~嘻
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From: lofan (Dec 24, 2005 01:46 HKT) 仲有呀，之前用左好耐果封係日劇琉璃之島的主題曲，歌詞好感人嫁，無線 2006年會播，到時記住睇呀，2005年我最推薦的日劇！！ |
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From: Lo Fan (Dec 24, 2005 01:42 HKT) 嘩，成首歌詞！阿 Bonnie 姐你搞到個 comment 好鬼長... Anyway，其實我係比較鍾意 lee 首歌的真身：岡本真夜o既 "Tomorrow"，旋律一樣，但稍為輕快，而歌詞有少部分相似。 其實主要係因為就黎牛一所以換下音樂兼搞下花樣咋（d 細路女唔應該睇的新相簿千祈唔好入喎），過多幾日又會換新歌，然後應該新年之前會回復原狀嫁啦 |
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From: Lo Fan (Dec 09, 2005 00:01 HKT) 多謝各方好友報料，今日大部分書局都已經有得賣啦！ 
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From: Lo Fan (Dec 05, 2005 00:32 HKT) 雖然暫時書局未見，不過今日在商務印書館的網上書店見到啦，留返兩個網止俾各位觀眾： http://order.lofan.net （轉駁至商務印書館網上商店） http://pricing.lofan.net （轉駁至多家網上書店的價格比較，但需時很久） |
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From: Lo Fan (Nov 29, 2005 23:19 HKT) TY: 當然好到爆，之但係... 我點俾你？我老豆會見到你老豆，經佢地兩位老人家得唔得？ |
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From: ty (Nov 29, 2005 15:37 HKT) 留返本俾我呀!! 我驚賣斷市呀! 搵支靚筆幫我簽定個名啦~ 仲要寫明 "to ty" 先係正貨!!!! |
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From: Lo Fan (Nov 29, 2005 10:28 HKT) 拜托各位唔好再貪得意叫我送書啦好唔好，我拒絕你又尷尬，我真係送的話又入哂肉，你自己會唔會一見親朋友就質$68俾人嫁？唔會就唔該唔好再叫我送書，我已經接近破產邊緣啦！ 丫，Contax Club幫我搞的簽名會片段 |
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From: lofan (Nov 24, 2005 09:39 HKT) 搞左足足半年，我終於都做得成老豆啦，我個仔（我本書）十一月廿二號於產房（印刷廠）誕生啦！！！ |
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From: patrick wong (Nov 23, 2005 10:03 HKT) Glad to see another photographer using G2. |
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From: lofan (Nov 16, 2005 15:59 HKT) 女青年會叫Photo鴨pher唔俾錢！ |
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From: Lo Fan (Nov 15, 2005 11:07 HKT) Thank you Ick-san from so far away! Actually I had been to Lake Mashu twice before but actually I didn't really like it very much. The first time was totally foggy, while the second time was a lot better but I just didn't really find it charming, it was beautiful, peaceful, but not that charmful. Or maybe I just missed the best moments? One more great news to tell, my guide book of Hokkaido is going to be published soon. |
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From: ikumukun@gmail.com (Nov 14, 2005 18:37 HKT) Nice pictures. I love the pictures of Hokkaido. I'm from Obihiro and Teshikaga, I'm surprised you didn't stop by Mashuko. One of the pictures in your Kushiro album kind of looked like Lake Mashu... |
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From: lofan (Nov 11, 2005 23:52 HKT) 戀影北海道下星期尾印起啦！响書局見街就未有期（因為要送Sample去書局等人入貨），但如果有興趣直接同我買，可以在 http://preorder.lofan.net 或者 lofanyw@gmail.com 直接落order，我再想辦法送過黎俾各位∼  
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From: lofan (Nov 11, 2005 23:48 HKT) 戀影北海道下星期尾印起啦！响書局見街就未有期（因為要送Sample去書局等人入貨），但如果有興趣直接同我買，可以在 http://preorder.lofan.net 或者 lofanyw@gmail.com 直接落order，我再想辦法送過黎俾各位∼ |
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From: Lo Fan (Nov 01, 2005 10:18 HKT) Tom: 稀客喎∼又估唔到你會留言喎！ 到農曆新年我諗本書冇理由出唔成啦卦，如果真係出唔成都死得啦，兩個旺季都過哂，真係放到暑假先賣咩∼ 
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From: Tom Hung (Oct 31, 2005 13:10 HKT) 幾時又返日本, 我覺得2006新年時要一手交書,一手交利是. |
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From: Lo Fan (Oct 25, 2005 19:33 HKT) 嘻嘻，不過新近果批旅行相冇辦法，真係唔算太好∼ 有時間請光臨 Contax Club 一齊吹水啦！ |
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From: kitano (Oct 25, 2005 15:31 HKT) HI Lo Fan兄, 多謝瀏覽小弟的相簿看你的作品大部分都是用 N1拍的,非常欣賞. 小弟也是CONTAX的支持者, 現在有ARIA及T3 |
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From: Lo Fan (Oct 24, 2005 15:51 HKT) 我 d 日文就係唔上唔落先死，夠旅行唔夠搵食，有鬼用？ 你相簿的相好正啦！影得好有心機啦！ |
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From: kitano (Oct 24, 2005 14:02 HKT) 好靚的日本風景,你去咁多日本地方, 你d日文一定好勁. 有時間去去我的相簿看看 www.fotop.net/kitano |
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From: Michaelsix (Oct 21, 2005 01:02 HKT) 越看越精彩的相簿！ http://www.fotop.net/Michaelsix |
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From: lofan (Sep 26, 2005 20:08 HKT) BBMMDD: Of course la!
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From: BBMMDDD (Sep 26, 2005 15:00 HKT) 有冇响書到留website address 先? |
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From: lofan (Sep 25, 2005 14:53 HKT) Fantography 終於踏上第20000下 Hit Rate 啦！多謝各位得閒無事幫我Click！ 隨住文憑班畢業禮、我十月的長野之旅，以及戀影北海道正式出版，希望30000會快D出現啦！
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